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+# Peace dialogue notes
+
+- Grew up as Israeli, became soldier
+- Doubted morals, told to not think about consequences
+- Army is above everything
+- Never imagined meeting Palestinians -> always told to never cross wall (into
+  West Bank), violent
+- Never heard about Nakba (in Israel) until Germany -> In Israel, Law prohibits teaching Nakba
+- Israeli/Palestine peace activists: First step forward is recognizing the
+  other side
+- Decided to move and live with Palestinian friends in West Bank -> reaction
+  was shock
+- Oppressive system, Israeli government encroaching on Palestinian way of life
+
+- Lived in Jericho, born in East Jerusalem
+- Stories of Nakba were earliest
+- In Jerusalem, no services, not allowed to fix houses, etc
+- Army gave two options: administrative detention -> kidnapped by General for
+  2-3 years or military court
+- Learned about all injustices committed by jews (Israelis) and began to feel
+  hate, throw stones, etc
+- Heard of peace talks, celebrations in Jericho
+- Felt not recognized by international law, community, etc -> no rights
+- Palestinian schools closed by Israeli army
+- Shocked by jews who believe in peace -> could not believe they exist -> only
+  one narrative
+- Met woman who believed had right to live on land, but did not believe they
+  had the right to displace and discriminate against others
+- Everyone is suffering, paying the price
+- Went to Europe, learned what happened to Jews (holocaust) -> came to
+  conclusion that Israelis and Palestinians have to meet and talk to resist the
+  system
+- Started "Visit Palestine" to show Israelis what Palestine and life under
+  occupation looks like
+- Only way forward is to give everyone their freedom
+
+Questions:
+
+Where was the meeting in Bethlehem?
+
+_Q: What other parts of the system oppress the people?_
+
+A: There are three groups:
+
+First - from (Jordan) River to Sea. Arabs born in Israel ostensibly have
+citizenship
+
+Second group: Palestinians in West Bank, Gaza: not citizens, military
+law/police instead of civil police
+
+Third group: Palestinians expelled
+
+The entire system is how to guarantee Jewish majority (ethnostate). You can't
+guarantee "Jewish democratic state" without discrimination. Jewish democratic
+state / Jewish majority / "Jewish supremacy"
+
+_Q: Is land redistribution is a path through this crisis, and do you see that as
+a part of this movement?_
+
+A: In America, ethnic cleansing is complete, so we can talk about reparations,
+redistribution, etc. In Gaza, we are in the middle of ethnic cleansing.
+Redistribution is a "fantasy", because we need to stop the violence now. Of
+course, it is part of thefuture, but no one is imagining it because worried
+about more immediate issues
+
+Need to work on a ceasefire now. Worrying about what is the best solution,
+peace organization, etc, is us trying to keep conscience happy. No one knows
+about what is going on in Gaza, Israeli jails, etc. We need to talk about the
+governments defending Israel's crimes. Peace organizations are part of the
+system. Can't use system to change system.
+
+Israeli government doesn't want citizens to learn common language with Arabs.
+Discourage learning Arabic. Want to keep people apart because otherwise they
+will realize they are similar.
+
+System needs to keep people divided to dehumanize them.
+
+_Q: Who in the system do or would you think you need to speak to?_
+
+A: Very flexible, willing to speak to anyone who agrees or disagrees with us.
+Want to convince everyone.
+
+_Q: What do you think are the best steps to take to promote ceasefire on
+individual and institutional level?_
+
+A: We are all complicit because the system in Israel is the same system here.
+The same military complex, the same bombs. Understand how system works, and
+unite and build power and a movement. Need to be open and let people who
+disagree with us into our space, to stop separation of us against them.
+Transformation takes time. We are fighting against the empire who makes
+billions while we kill each other.
+
+Q: It seems that real transformation will not occur until mass media begins to
+change. The most respected media voices censor much of the discourse. What has
+your experience been with the media branding many of your points as
+anti-semitic?
+
+A: The mainstream media are not interested. Only invited by podcasts and small
+newspapers. Big channels will never talk to the activists. We need to build
+alternative independent media.
+
+Q: Do you feel that with support for Palestine on social media, Israelis are
+beginning to see the actions of the Israeli state?
+
+A: More and more Israelis are waking up but it's not enough, the mainstream are
+moving right. Every night, the news is propaganda. The prevalence social media
+and phones is very good because it's finally documenting the war crimes.
+Before, people wouldn't believe the atrocities committed by the Israel
+government. The US government is working more for Israel than the Americans.
+
+Q: Is the way that we discuss the issues productive?
+
+A: Many people are too busy infighting amongst themselves, when they have no
+skin in the game.

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+#import "@preview/ilm:1.2.1": *
+
+#set text(lang: "en")
+
+#show: ilm.with(
+  title: [Notes on the Israeli-Palestine Peace Dialogue],
+  author: "Youwen Wu",
+  date: datetime(year: 2024, month: 10, day: 08),
+  abstract: [
+  ],
+  figure-index: (enabled: true),
+  table-index: (enabled: true),
+  listing-index: (enabled: true),
+)
+
+= Introductions
+
+- Recruited to